Scheps Omni Channel Mix - Falling Apart

Scheps Omni Channel Mix - Falling Apart
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#1

Here’s a quick mix done almost entirely with Waves’ new “Scheps Omni Channel Plugin”. I used a few other plugins for ambience, delays etc, but for the most part it’s the Scheps plugin, including using it on the 2 Buss.

…& the completed mix…


The Last 5% - Scheps Omni Channel Mix - Falling Apart
#2

Sweeeeeet!

Which comp mode did you use on the 2 bus?


#3

I think I used FET mode.


#4

That’s interesting. Only started seriously pursuing 2 bus compression within the last year. I preferred mixes without it for quite some time. I had to do some research to understand why certain guys thought various bus comps worked better than others…and I’ve done a lot of reading lately on the differences between the design concepts behind the SSL comp, the API 2500, the Vari-Mus, and the Red 3. It’s difficult to study by listening to it because its much harder to ID in a mix than vocal verb, or guitar delay lol.


#5

nicely done. really cool groove to this song.


#6

Sounds good,i love this song I might have to have another mix this .


#7

Good song AND mix! So does the “Scheps Omni Channel Plugin” do anything you can’t already do with scads of different plugins? Hard on the CPU? What are your impressions?


#8

Wow, that’s a very studious approach - I’ve always just picked a compressor and started twiddling knobs until I heard something good! I think I’ve gotten a little more discerning as the years have gone by, but I do have a few favourites that I return to regularly.

Thanks Eric. The slap bass was an interesting challenge that I had never taken on before. Fortunately it was really well recorded and played. It could have been a real nightmare…

The mix is missing that last, very time-consuming “5%” automation and detail that I would normally apply, but the idea was really just a fast, fun way to test the plugin.

Thanks Alan. Yeah definitely a cool track - I found the lead Vox needed some tuning to get them to sit well.

Thanks Mike… The plugin combines quite a few processes including saturation, de-essing gating, eq, compression, external patching and limiting. The de-essing and gating modules are particularly flexible. It is very easy on CPU - I used it on pretty much every channel and then some, and my computer was barely above idling.

My impressions are good. I think I could get better results if I got more of a handle on gain-staging it. That said, I’m pretty happy how it came out.


#9

This is sounding real good Andrew… Excellent clarity, can distinguish all the parts, but it gels really nicely too.

Intrigued by your gain-staging comment. I use the Izotope Ozone suite on pretty much everything for the past few years since I first picked it up, and my impression (without any kind of deep dive, mind you) is that the component parts seem to “understand their place” in the gain-stage chain and I rarely have to make any adjustments from one component handing off to the next. I kinda thought that was one of the main objectives of an integrated channel-strip plug, to take some of that guesswork out of the deal. I’ve not heard of the Scheps before now, is there not some similar approach taken in its design?

And when you used it on individual tracks as well as on the 2, how does that get set up? Drop one instance on each track and the pick and choose which components you want to use depending on the instruments and so forth? (I also went in for the Izotope Alloy which I use on many individual tracks; it’s intended for that mostly, whereas Ozone almost always only on the 2 bus. Although once in awhile I’ll grab just one of the components, e.g. tape saturation, to use alone.)

Very nice, I hope you post what you consider the “finished” version so that we can see just what you like to get out of that last 5%…


#10

Had a quick mix


#11

There is no single plugin that does all of these things. The Saphira is the only plugin that with proportional distortion ratios based on even and odd order harmonics. I do not believe there is plugin with accurate modeling of 3 compressor schematics with linked output attenuation and automatic re-blancing of the makeup gain. This is the only plugin where the architecture of the single chain can fold to a 5.1 surround sound effects bus from directly inside the UI window.


#12

It has a very “analogue” feel to the plugin, meaning that the harder you push the gain, the more it rounds off the transients. I did things very quickly, so I didn’t really understand this fully until well into the mix. I think if I took more time to explore the “sweet spot” with the input and output gain, I might have been able to be more purposeful with the way I shaped the transients in the mix.

And when you used it on individual tracks as well as on the 2, how does that get set up? Drop one instance on each track and the pick and choose which components you want to use depending on the instruments and so forth?

You’ve got it - That’s pretty much it.

Hmmm… not sure I’m inclined to invest the time… we’ll see

Wow, that was quick - did you use the Omni Channel?

Yeah, there are lots of “do it all” plugin channel strips out there, but this one has a number of unique features.


#13

Yep, I get that-- Just a “nice to have”. :slight_smile:


#14

This is very nice, very tight. I love all the changes too, very diverse.


#15

No I used slate vmr mainly on this mix


#16

Had another crack


#17

Thanks James!.. oh, and welcome to the site!

Cool - I’ll have a listen when I get home from work to my studio speakers.


#18

Andrew, have you tried the other Scheps plugins? I think the Waves Scheps 1073 attempt was weak. I like both the Slate and Kush versions better. I like the SoundToys one better too.

I do like the Scheps Parallel Particles though! Thoughts?


#19

No, I haven’t tried any of the others. I didn’t try the 1073 because I have the Slate version, and Parallel Particles just never really appealed to me… Especially because I can turn any plugin into a parallel process using the mix knob that Reaper has on every plugin by default.


#20

I totally get that. It is kind of gimmicky. And when I use it, I’m almost always using a single one of the four features. I use the ‘Thick’ here and there…but it came free in the Mercury bundle. I wouldn’t have bought it by itself.