Haha! Look! I found a “professional” engineer with a $300,000 SSL, who went to school for recording, worked for huge production companies, and is also an attorney at law to mix my track for $5! What a deal!? How do you compete with that?
good ol’ fiverr! lol
The part that cracks me up the most is that he makes mention of MTV. Not only that, it makes FIRST on his list! LMAO
So he’s mixed a reality show? hahahaha
OMFG. That joker has mixed 176 tracks and his customer feedback is 4.9 out of 5 stars. Good grief. I’ll shovel that dude my broadcast and dialogue editing work all day long for $5 pr track. If he knows what he’s doing I’ll give him another $5 to clean up my hard drives and compact sessions for archiving too. I actually emailed him. Holy shit that is cheap as hell. That’s just wrong.
Send him a copy of the contest song and see if he would’ve won. hahahaha!
Doesn’t necessarily mean they all paid $5. He has $25 and $50 gigs.
Lol. You make fun of dudes trying to make a little money? So “hobbyists” are losers to you, and so are guys trying to make a few bucks? Or are you just pissed because he’s exposing your actual value? The curtain has been lifted!
In economic terms it IS laughable to charge so little because you can’t make a living on that, but presumably he’s spend a lot of money on going to that recording school and on his gear. So, in a sense, it is a joke.
Then you get into the politics of it - this idea that if you charge that little it damages the industry as a whole and devalues the public’s perception of the job.
Personally, I have to laugh. Not at this person in particular, but at the situation as a whole.
Last year someone asked my how much I’d charge to mix a track. I did a bit of thinking - mixing itself anywhere between 5-10 hours, fuel to get to and from my room for a couple of sessions… balanced against my lack of professional experience, I figured £60. Anything less and it’d not be worth the bother, I can mix tracks for free all day if I want to.
They didn’t reply, and a few months later I found his was working with someone that has a studio and charges £20/ mix. Can’t compete with that, and get confused by the economics of the situation.
You don’t know that he’s trying to make a living off of it. Maybe he has a real job doing something with audio and wants to mix people’s crap for a side hustle. I personally don’t see how people willingly sit through other people’s garbage music, but for some people they don’t mind and are happy to do it for some cash.
I don’t know how much it actually “damages the industry”. Serious professional musicians will not be using this guy for 5 bucks a pop, and the “industry” is mostly a joke anyway. You know who’s “damaging the industry”? DAW and plug-in designers.
I asked him for his gear list. Let’s find out.
That has to assume the quality level of his work is comparable to mine. I get what you’re saying, but it doesn’t devalue anything unless the cheaper product is also a viable solution. I can give away $2 bass traps all day long, but it won’t even put a dent in the Ethans market for $400 bass traps. Because people who would buy them from him want the real thing.
Also, I don’t know that it matter how the general public perceives the value of our services. Yes, the value of recorded music is greatly diminished. But there is a difference between recorded music as a mechanical asset and the service of producing recorded music. And the latter is a process in which the general public isn’t involved in or informed about. Thus I’m not sure their perception of value is indicative to the actual value of these services.
Good thoughts though…
I thought most of the people on those websites lived in poor countries. $5 for them would be good money and they could live off that quite easily.
This guys in Mexico.
lol…and he’s not gonna send his gear list. Oh well. I guess I have to edit my own mix this afternoon. Too bad
Send him a track to mix and see lol
Hell f—ing no. I’m not sending him a dime OR a track until i see his equipment list. I’ve asked him 3 times, I’m going to beg this twerp for it. You get what you pay for.
I don’t see what difference his gear list makes. It’s how you use the gear that counts. If I mixed your track my ‘gear list’ would consist of Mixcraft and a few (mostly free) plugins. Do you think I would make a bad job of it?
You all seem to be assuming that the guy charges $5 per mix. He doesn’t. He has three different charges: $5, $25 and $50. And each gig has the option of ‘Gig Extras’, even the $5 gig has $20, $10 and $25 gig extras (fast delivery, additional revisions etc.)
I make over half my living on Fiverr, I can pretty much guarantee that he is not averaging $5 per gig - it will be a lot more than that.
Furthermore, I can also guarantee that to get a rating and feedback comments like that, you have to be shit hot, there’s no other way. So my guess is that his work is very good, if not excellent, although of course I will stand corrected if necessary.
Ah, a reasonable and logical response to the elitist cork-sniffing witch-hunt dumbfuckery in this pathetic thread. Well said AJ.
I wanted to see what I could get him to edit. Working on templates within my mix prep and edit workflow require the person has PT or Nuendo (preferably both). I couldn’t work with Logic and other music DAWs for multiple reasons listed in the DAW thread. Cubase also wouldn’t work if the final deliver format requires anything higher than 5.1. I also need an editor to have certain plugs in the Waves and UAD libraries. It would be helpful if the person has Slate and Izotope too. You get the guy to set stuff in a reasonable ballpark then spend your time tweaking the session file he gives you back.
You can’t format, edit, or arrange mockups cues from a spot sheet without a high end string library. The low end ones can’t perform articulations accurately. You can not put them in your DAW if you DAW doesn’t support conductor hit points on its video engine. This is really easy work for someone who knows what they’re doing, but even if they do, they can’t do the job if they don’t have the tools.
Its reasonable to expect this stuff since this guy purported to have extensive experience in post and gaming. What the fuck else would he done for Nintendo? That’s completely a post-audio gig!
His gig description is to mix a song, nothing more. The end product is (presumably) a WAV, not a DAW project. You’re expecting him to do things that he doesn’t offer.
Even so, instead of demanding a list of his gear, why don’t you tell him exactly what you want him to do so that he can reply with a straight yes or no?
I’m not looking for a fight here, but if I was in his position, and I got a request for a list of my gear I’d reply politely saying that I have no intention of doing anything like that - either place an order or move along. It’s Fiverr, not Abbey Road.
? The guy listed post work in his profile and editing as part of his services.
I didn’t really ‘demand’ it, I kindly requested it several times, and he kept answering with follow ups saying he couldn’t find it. I did tell him (in a respectful and professional manner) what I was hoping to work with him on. He was straight forward about the fact he didn’t read music and couldn’t help with anything that involved scoring.
And I would respect that if it came from you. A straight answer is appreciated, even if the answer is no.
I know. I guess I was just hoping this would work.
I dont really think its about gear for mixing as many hits have been mixed with stock protools alone.