Please bash the live drums in my new song

I talked my buddy ( I played in our band with for twenty years) into playing drums to this new song. Only problem is that I had the tracks already recorded, so he had to drum to the song. Not sure if he was on. Also, does it need EQ? I did put a little reverb on it.

Anyhow this dude gets dumped by his girl, and every time he starts feeling better, he sees her out in public. I was first going to call it “suck it up buttercup”, but it didn’t fit the feel. ha ha Might have too much reverb on the electric guitars?

Sincerely

Paul

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sounds good. Nice late 70s ‘California’ feel. (Carly Simon, Linda R, Eagles)

Panning might be a little weird. Sounds like most drums on one side and then the guitar with reverb on other side. Might have been nice to have drums and that reverb guitar spread wider

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Jon Jon Yup, you were right. I just cranked up the studio and I had the drums 37% right. I have no idea why. You see, I couldn’t hear that and you picked it up immediately:) Just uploaded the fix thanks much

sincerely

Paul

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how many mics on the drum? just curious

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This is my Roland TD-6V electronic set. He said he liked the sound as a drummer etc. I think he said you can program just about anything into them. I could also bring my laptop to his house and mic up his Tama drums. I just wasn’t impressed with this electronic set. We played out a couple times with them and I guess they sounded ok?? That is why I posted here to get some feedback. thanks for listening again:)

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This is sounding pretty good to me Paul… I do think there is a bit too much high freq on the drums and vocals, and your vocals could use a bit more meat in the low-mid freqs too-- if you high-passed your vocals, you may have overdone it a bit. The level could be a bit higher too, the guitars are a bit loud compared to the vox.

The kick could be more pronounced too, and the bass is a bit quiet. I’d like to hear a bit more punch in the low end in general.

Nice composition! And I love the way the guitar sound, personally… they fit the vibe of the song. Nice job :slight_smile:

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Sounds very good, Paul! I like the song - nicely done… and the mix sounds very good.

The drums suit the music - perhaps they are a little on the sterile side. One option open to you that doesn’t require your to mic up a full drum kit is to capture the midi note recording from an electronic kit, and then use that to trigger higher quality drum samples than the ones that come with the Roland kit.

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Hi CW I just boosted the bass by 5 db. I had it way down there. I remember doing it experimenting to see if it was cluttering anywhere and forgot to put it back. I did do a high pass on the vocal and then save it, so I can’t get that back. I see there was nothing in the 100-200 range. I just tried to increase that area by 6db. Seems to have helped a bit. I boosted my vocal by 1.5 db and I think that helped too? Thanks for your ears bud. I will keep posting the updates. no need to revist:)

sincerely

Paul

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He CRS :slight_smile: I will tell by drummer about that trick. I don’t get him to my house very often anymore and then I always talk him into playing something. ha ha I was also thinking of experimenting with EZdrummer? I hate to tho because it is pretty special to have one of your best friends a part of your song.

Thanks for listening again

Sincerely

Paul

Listening to the last one … I think the drum performance is perfect.

It’s a song. The listener’s focus is on the singing while the vocalist is on, and in this style the drums are important, but should be unobtrusive.

These drums are absolutely perfect – they catch the feel and mood of the song – they come forward where they need to, step back when they need to. The performance is exactly what it should be.

As for the drum sounds … I think they sound good and complement the song well. The bass MAY still be down a bit from where it should be – but I was listening on headphones so the bass may also be dead on. The vocal sounds a bit too loud to me, but that could be my headphones.

This is really nice work!

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Hi Brutus Nice to meet you and thank you for the kind words. I copied and sent this to my drummer and he was tickled. I would like to get him involved in a live song now. It is very hard to drum along with a song and a click track. He didn’t know the song so he had to guess where to use the crash :slight_smile: Might have used it too much? Someone had just said that the vocal had to come up a little and you thought it was too loud. ha ha I just listened and I think it might be the chorus that is too loud especially with the harmony. I’ll fix that.

Sincerely

Paul

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Coming along great! I’ll be anxious to hear the finished product!

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Sounds really nice,

S

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I thought that the lead vocal was too loud in a few spots throughout the song. The background vocals were really loud too.

I think you captured a really nice, mellow vibe with this song. Really cool!

The drums sound kind of thin too me but this doesn’t seem to be a song that necessarily needs full sounding drums…, it might make things sound better though. One thing I do like, is that you can hear the kick coming through nicely.

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This is sounding really good Paul! The low end has improved a lot, and the adjustments to the bgv work really well too. Now that you’ve clarified these things, I would now suggest that you do dial back the reverb on the swampy guitar just a little bit. Minor adjustment only.

I still really envy your ability to come up with these simple but excellent songs…! Nicely done.

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I would love that so much!! You need to let me know next time you come down to Texas for the winter…

This is exactly why I never record from an amp or other device that locks in the sound at tracking. Invariably, I need to come back and adjust something. So I always always record DI/clean with amp sims or whatever, because once I have the performance I like, I can always go back and adjust reverb or distortion or any other part of the sound to suit the mix as it evolves. I know a lot of people like to “commit” to a certain thing, be it vocals or guitar or whatever. I frankly don’t understand what there is to lose by keeping options available right to the end, and what there is to gain by “committing” except maybe a little time, because you can’t go back and fiddle with it anymore.

Looking forward to whatever you do with this one… it’s a winner.

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I see I’m late to the game and you’ve already put a ton of work into this one.

It all sounds really good! Good work!

Now, I’d love to hear those drums up a little louder and/or that vocal tucked in a little more…but I like things that way anyway. It’s not especially genre-appropriate here.

No big complaints from me here. High-fives!

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Quite pleasant, Paul. I like the final mix. The drums are subdued to match the ambience of the rest of the song. Your friend did a great job! EZDrummer wouldn’t sound as good as him, and it’s a lot more work for you.

The lyrical phrasing is neatly done, too, really helps this normal song shine in my opinion. Do people still slow dance at proms? Because it makes me want to…

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