Bleev UR (bash please)

Hi again. It is just a personal preference. I like to hear singing by 15 or so seconds. Your start is at 30. There is great guitar to listen to tho. Big space between 50 seconds and 1:10 as well. Seems like you could say a lot more?? and let those guitars play on. Good thing about a review, you can take it or leave it. It’s kinda like you told me to cut back on the reverb. I am going to:) I used a reverb called cathedral (appropriate for your song) anyway the preset was 20% and I cut it to ten right off. That AGG and LA610 add a bunch so I will cut that maybe to 5 or not at all. Peace friend, this song is good

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Thanks, Paul. I love your stuff and knew you had good feedback for me, but I just didn’t know what you meant. Thanks for elaborating. That makes sense. Very helpful. :smile: I think I know what you mean. I wondered about that too, cuz there’s the intro, then verse, but then it all repeats again. It does seem like something (lyrical) that could break that up might be helpful.

Much appreciated, Paul.

Okay. Here’s my re-mix. Biggest changes here were tweaking the EQ on the bass and totally re-doing the vocals, re: ocnor’s thoughts on it being too nasal and thin and the bass being off.

Tried working with EQ a lot on the vox and it just wasn’t “quite” getting it so I re-recorded vox.

I’m thinking I’m getting close. It feels more balanced to me and I do like the vox better.

Haven’t had time yet, but now the squeaky-string thing is really bothering me. I will re-do that acoustic lead, maybe this weekend, so ignore that for now. :frowning:

Oh, and thanks, Mike, re: the toms. I brought 'em down. Does that do it for you?

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Hey, that is sounding much much better! The toms fit right in and don’t draw my attention, and it feels like you’ve got everything pretty well balanced. The vocals sound a lot better too.

re: squeaks - I’m wondering if you have Izotope RX-7 or some equivalent noise reduction/repair plugin? I haven’t used it, but I’d bet there’s a guitar de-squeaker in there. And you don’t need to totally remove them, it’s part of the sound of the track. Honestly, with this mix, the squeaks seem much less prevalent for some reason.

After a quick Google, here’s a couple of videos:


Sounding good!

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Cool. Thanks, Mike. Much appreciated. No, I don’t have RX 7. I saw that Sweetwater video. It’s excellent, but I was not successful, cuz the frequency of my string squeaks is very broad.

I also found some stuff on YouTube (Kenny Gioia) on using spectral editing to identify and remove pieces of audio like that. I might try it just to learn how to do it, but for sure the best fix would be to just re-do the guitar. :slight_smile:

The vocals sound much better. Everything is balanced pretty well. The string noise is a little annoying in some spots. Overall it’s a vast improvement.

Good call on the vocals. I feel better with this mix. Thanks.

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Here’s an updated post of my most recent mix. Everything’s the same as the last mix except for doing some work on removal of the squeaks from the lead acoustic guitar. Would welcome feedback as to whether I did “too much” editing, re: artifacts on the acoustic guitar.

All squeak removal was done with spectral editing. See this post for details.

Ohh yeeeah, well done mate.Sounds great, everything on from here i imagine will be more fine detailed changes and nothing that will drastically improve it in any major way for the most part.I believe its pretty much at that point “it sounds good exactly how it is” slapping a hand attempting to adjust a mixerboard pot

I particularly actually like the vocals, the background vocals when they come in, come in really well and add/strengthen alot to the main vocals(like they usually should).

Some may still think the vocals are to thin, but even if they are still lacking abit of body, the balance it gets when the backing vocals come in give the perception that the main vocals have more body than it may actually have, so it all works out.

You could attempt to fatten the main vocals even more, but i think youll find from the reasons i mentioned, the chorus backing vocals wont have nearly the same effect when the main vocals are taking up more frequency range/amplitude, among other things.

Good track!

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Sorry i was away …busy doing important stuff… sorry its a few weeks late, hope you like the ‘glue’ :slight_smile:

& revisited with a little less tiredness… but you could probably make an even cooler mix with both of these spliced together. :crazy_face:

This is probably a better balance, but shows up a few more weaknesses in the mix… but that is what we are here for.

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Thanks, Vaughan. Very cool.

I’ve heard you mention this before, the idea of splicing mixes together. Could you explain that to me? Not sure I know what you mean.

I like what you did here. I know what you mean by the glue thing. It sounds a little muddy to me, though. Thoughts?

That said, hey, thanks, man. Much appreciated! Thanks for your encouragement to me. It really does mean a lot. So much talent on this site. I feel humbled by the many people, like you, that have invested the time and energy in giving the feedback and direction and coaching I’ve gotten here. So much to learn. Having a blast and learning tons!

Its nothing more than the first mix being a little thicker/ bassier/ fatter so it might be useful if you had a percieved weak 4 or 8 bars or so. You might drop that in there. I do this a lot myself, create two mixes then use them creatively.

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so, do you mean for example that I might create two mixes and drop them to MP3, or a WAV file maybe, and then load them into two new tracks in a new project, and blend them? Is that what you mean?

Sorry I didn’t mean to leave you hangin on…

What I mean is that you should maybe decide if you prefer choruses from one mix and verses from another, then try to splice them together. This is perfectly normal.