Pop / Punks Not Dead

Pop / Punks Not Dead
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#1

Hi guys HAPPY NEW YEAR to everyone!

Its been a while since I’ve last mixed and I’m kinda unsure of this mix.
I hope you can help me out with the mix.
P.S. Song is in a different language. Please bear with the lyrics.

Thanks
Brian


#2

I ‘fixed’ the tone for you…

but it was incredibly smashed, and the compression had made it kinda dull.

It could’ve been made better if it wasnt totally hammered with compression already.

Otherwise, a pretty neat song and mix!


#3

Thanks for the thoughts VTR. Yes I think I may have overdone the low and low mids. thanks for the effort in doing your version of the mix. I also did another mix and here’s what came out. What are your thoughts on this one? Let me know if I still need to look for something in the spectrum. cheers!


#4

its still horribly distorted. i can barely listen to it at THAT volume.

When i turn it down, by about 6dB, the tone is definitely better :beerbanger:


#5

Hi Glad I am not a good mixer because I thought it was great. Keep tweekin


#6

Hi Guys,
Thanks for the input. I’ve managed to put up a “super final mix” which was not so much heavily compressed. The video was already released by the band and here the music video. I hope i did it right on the last try and I hope you like the video. cheers and thank you very much for the input @vtr and @feaker


#7

OK, so just one LAST thing to remember when you happily clip off all those transients DIGITALLY for a few extra dB of loudness.

(Note that analog clipping sounds a little different and is generally more forgiving).

You may not hear it when you first render the track in its original format.

However, when you try to process / convert those clipped signals to another digital format, they often sound MUCH worse.

Anyway, a fun video. Hair ‘Bangs’ are clearly not dead in The Philippines :wink:


#8

Thanks @vtr . Do you have any plugins in mind for digital clipping? I’d love to learn more about this topic :slight_smile:


#9

Its not something I really care about (max loudness) but thats because I mostly work for old guys :slight_smile:

So I would suggest you compress things just a little bit, @multiple stages through your mix without killing all of your transients (use the attack control to let them through). Use groups or stems of similar instruments (or similar frequencies) and compress or similarly process each group. Make sure you correct the level and (brighten) the tone each time.

The idea is that you bring up the average level to meet the transient as opposed to just lopping it off the top. Anything you can do to maintain a string of ‘ones and zeroes’ instead of a string of ‘errors’ is obviously going to help when you get to mastering to a format like CD.

Obviously if you can use a little more distance between mic and drum when recording, the average level there will be more consistent too.

With vocals, just go through and even out the vocal lines on the waveform if necessary.

Others may also have perfected their own loudness techniques for really dense mixes that they can add, but I would mainly try to get them done BEFORE you get to the Master Fader.

I tend to use mostly Saturation, Tape emulation and Tilt EQ’s in my mixes, and currently the Abbey Road Mastering plugin. I also like Pultec style EQs (the Scheps plugins are also good).


#10

Yeah, cool video, thanks for sharing! So … “bangs” has the obvious hair reference, but you titled the thread “Punks Not Dead” and they are singing “Bangs Not Dead”, so I wondered if Bang’s = Punk’s in that culture/lingo? Is this Philippines/Tagalog?

I think they call them “soft clippers”, I use one by T-RackS (IK Multimedia) called the Classic Clipper. I’m sure there are other brands but I don’t see plugins like this very often. I think it has a similar effect to saturation plugins. The idea is to drive the signal hard, but that the plugin creates “soft clipping” by rounding off the peaks of the clip rather than it sounding hard and harsh. The manual has this to say:

This clipping stage module is useful every time you need to cut out all the peaks that keep the average level of a signal too low. Peak clipping is very often used in mastering because it’s in most cases more transparent than peak limiting.