November Songwriting challenge. Bash the demo

Vedder is a lamb. Louder Than Love is my favorite Soundgarden album. It’s their heaviest, most Sabbath-like, and Chris just screams his nuts off all over that record.

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Hey this is sounding cool JJ… definitely has a hook to it.
There are some really cool vocal and guitar moments and it definitely sounds worth working further on to my ears! Cool first song!!! :beerbanger:

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I think that’s what I like about Rusty Cage…It sounds like Sabbath a bit…I like where they slow down the groove and get real Sabbathy in the middle of the song. It’s a cool tune.

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There is a lot of slow doomy material on Louder Than Love, comes highly recommended. Sounds nothing like Jon Jon’s song though. You need to convince Vito Bratta to come out of retirement and solo on your song @Jon-Jon. That can be your November challenge.

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I think poor ol’ Vito has pretty hardcore carpal tunnel or tendinitis. They say he used to play/practice 12-14 hrs per day. Thats going to wreck u eventually unless you play with SUPER low tension in your fingers to where it just almost pure nerve impulses. Im betting with his style and tone that he used a bit more finger strength etc and he just wore out his joints etc

Malmsteen can probably get away with that much playing because he is using .8s with a scalloped fretboard and like ZERO finger tension. Im guessing Stevie Ray would have been totally arthritic if he had lived

Its funny how no one knows that I can play lead guitar lol. Not gonna lie I do have something to prove as far as that goes. The thing with home recording and laying down leads is that leads are the LAST thing to ever get laid down. So usually they simply dont get laid down at all. Hardly any of my demos have leads because its like “whats the point”? lol

Ive been singing less than 2 years, playing leads for almost 30.

The challenge is similar to singing and lyrics…in order to really show off your lead chops, the WHOLE SONG has to be good. Thats why im trying to continue pushing my voice and rhythm tracks into harder and harder rock vibes. Also, the production itself needs to be good otherwise the lead wont pop out of the mix anyway

Anyway, talk is cheap but I hope I will at some point be able to translate the skills I feel I have down onto an actual finished product that will talk for itself. Until then its just a lot more work needed

Its funny because I pretty much hated the whole grunge thing. And it wasnt just grunge itself, it was the whole “alternative” thing where there was a conscious shift to change everything in society in the Clinton era. The effects of which can been seen every day at work and in the streets today.

As I type I happen to have a playlist playing: VanHalen (DLR era), Soundgarden, Lynch Mob, Chevelle, BulletBoys, Black Label Society, DefLeppard

After many years I have finally sort of made my peace with grunge. Of course “grunge” is just some dumb meaningless label just like “hair metal”…which means absolutely nothing. Whereas long haired cock rock took like 20-25 years for the greedy labels to totally kill with inbred copycatting, grunge took like 2 years lol. All of a sudden EVERYONE was wearing flannel shirts with shorts with boots and like wool socks sticking out of the boots lol. Big life lesson for me at that point as far as media manipulation guiding the braindead sheeple.

As far as taking sides on the grunge bands. Here is where I finally landed: Pretty much I really like AIC and Soundgarden. Not EVERY song mind you, but the good ones are really great. Stuff like 'We die young" is just good long haired rock…nothing too revolutionary there IMO. Soundgarden has great stuff like Holy Water, Limo Wreck, 4th of July and many others but then there was a lot of just chaotic garbage and weirdness too.

Lyrically im not really into hearing about shooting up and killing your mother

Nirvana im pretty ambivalent towards. I did sort of dig the song “in Bloom” when I used to hear it in the gym but I certainly dont see Kurt Cobain as any type of hero. Ill leave it at that.

Pearl Jam. Well, I pretty much despise 100% of Eddie Vedders existence so there ya go lol. Another petty socialist gun grabber who never had a job in his life and he wants to lecture folks? PLUS he cant even sing a lick?? lol

STP I never really listened to until a couple years ago and now I really dig them. Gotta give credit where its due as far as songwriting. Some nice songs there and dude had a nice voice where he got the job done without a lot of vocal gymnastics or histrionics

But now when I listen to the stuff I do, or at least the rhythm jams, I dont hear myself sounding like 80s rock at all. Most of my stuff isnt overtly bright and happy sounding. for instance I dont think I have ANY riffs along the lines of Round and Round, 17 (Winger), Unchained, Crazy Train.

Lately I hear mine being more of 70s LedZep/Sabbath vibe so it does sort of line up with the Soundgarden/STP/AIC vibe a bit. But like ive lamented, I havent quite got the vocal vibe to match what I want to do yet but I feel im getting closer

I think “post grunge” is pretty close to some of what I want to sound like, for instance I dig this stuff:

Like I said, lotta work to do lol

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getting close to dark genius here:

Love how the songs are so dark and then they somehow pull out a chorus hook from nowhere and there is a tiny bit of sunshine in the hook lol. Its almost like the formula is “quirky weirdness and then sing-along 3 chord chorus hook” lol

This is a pretty solid rocker

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OK, I think I’m in the right place. Here is an epic length folk rock song about men behaving badly, sort of focusing on Judge Roy Moore. The title is a fake newspaper headline-
MALL TEASE FALL CON JOB

There’s everything about it unfinished, but it just came out. Hope you like it!
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Even though the verses are 6/8 time and the choruses 4/4, it doesn’t seem to be overly obvious to my own ears, but I was trying to be slightly fancy.

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I like all of those tunes. Even without Staley they’re still pretty good.