Loudness of mix

Hello! I’m newbie here…one question - what desired volume of the mix? (in LUFS).

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To answer you question, I think there’s no right answer:

  • whatever you like
  • whatever you think the song need
  • some kind of standards (-12, -13, -14…) or some K-scale standards
  • something that matches some of your reference songs…

Nothing in particular to worry about to me.
Go on!!

As loud as a circus midget on the toilet after getting food poisoning from a bad burrito.

Or whatever you want. We’re not the FCC, thank God.

Yeap, thankfully!

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I go anywhere from 16 for jazz type stuff up to sometimes 10 for rock in loudest parts, but depends on the track .12-14 is a pretty good aim

I usually drive my plugins on the master bus, and if it sounds too squashed, it’s too loud, that’s the only way I know if it’s too loud. And also referencing!

in theory loudness should be level matched at a mixing stage, as it is not about the loudness. A characteristic of a good mix is that it should sound open and clear at any volume level without straining the ears, too faint or too loud - both directions.
I submitted my mix without any kind of bouncing from outboard mastering setup. I do notice that some mixes submitted were too loud (for my taste). If I feel like reaching for my volume button once or twice in the same song, I feel like it would have been better if submitted unmastered as the wrong kind of mastering will wreck a perfectly good mix.

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I make sure all my mixes are free of those pesky dynamics. DR 0-3 maximum! Just like Iggy Pop and Metallica!
http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/135626
http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/104343

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Gain staging at mix is very important for a big dynamic mix. Lots of headroom