And I gave you the answers. 0dB in the audio world today is clipping. FACT!
Staying at -0.3 dB stops artifacts from entering your mixes that you obviously can’t hear. You may not know what to listen for…stuff like that is another reason mastering guys stay in business. You’re more worried about keeping up with commercial loudness and mixes over quality and what your ears hear for the material. That’s how you SHOULD be viewing this.
You lost all credibility when you mentioned commercial mixes. Be better than them…you set the bar…make people want to sound like you. Frig those other mixes. It’s not even much help to use reference mixes. They are good for you to identify with your monitors. To reference them to mix or master…lose/lose situation.
Why? Because you didn’t use the instruments verbatim that the mix you are comparing to used. The cymbals are not the same, therefore the high end curve is not accurate. The guitars they used are nor the same…the drum kit, the voice…I can go on and on.
Let me tell you a little something about commercial mixes. They are geared for ear buds! Most of the stuff I listen to today sounds like crap on all my good gear. Just about all of it. The newer rock and modern country bands are stepping away from major loudness where compression and limiting are the only effects used.
The new rock that almost sounds like early 70"s with the dry, raw, and “just room” sounds are at a sane, -10dB to -15dB RMS on average. And they should sound good on everything. They may be a little bass light with buds…but hey, I’m not like everyone else. I mix and master for the song and on good gear. My.life doesn’t revolve around ear buds…even if 90% of the world is using them.
Most of the other stuff needs to be so loud because ear bud systems need the push. They don’t get loads of bass, so extra bass is.added wihich turns to mud on a real system. A nice mix at -3dB then mastered correctly to -0.3 will not cap off like a pushed 0dB mix. You have nowhere else to go! How many times have I said this? And you say I don’t read your posts? I give up…why am I here…Brian, the things I do coz I live you mayan!
I told you to try it my way. I presented a factual argument that you disagree with yet you have never tried. You repeatedly ask for answers and when you get them, are so full of your pride and your wrong way of comparing that you will forever be testing for nothing while testing the wrong things.
Hmm…is that flaming or hard to swallow truth? At this point I don’t care. You are not going to sit here and accuse me of flaming when I’ve corrected you in an area you have admitted not knowing much about.
You’ve even apologized for some of your comments. I’m not apologizing for mine as I have done nothing wrong but correct you on your ignorance in certain areas. If you don’t know much about this, why debate me? Try what I’ve told you and let’s talk. That’s what should have happened here. But you seem to have all the answers. I can’t be the only one thinking this?
What is with this personal attack crap? I didn’t attack anyone. If so, why have I not been warned or banned? So let’s stop it with that stuff. If you want to fight or see real flames, we can do that too? I so hate being accused of stuff I didn’t do. That aggravates me.
So far, I have not seen AJ nor myself attack each other so I don’t know what DeRebel is talking about. AJ claims I’ve flamed him, but all I did was disagree with a man that would rather debate about nothing over discussing or trying what someone like me or anyone else was offering. That is not a flame. That’s is my personal assessment.
Since you’re new, DeRebel, and I mean this respectfully, it’s a good idea If you’re not going to name names…to not jump in and stir the pot of the conversation pointing fingers at “more than one”. I don’t know who you were talking about but I’ve contributed to this thread and could be someone you are referring to.
If you were implying me, I ask again…why didn’t a mod step in and correct me? But because you didn’t name names, you involved yourself in something that didn’t pertain to you. Understand?
As you can see, I’m a little peeved at this. I was asked to give an opinion and I’ve done that. I don’t care that people may not agree with it…but I gave it and shouldn’t have to deal with being accused of flaming or personal attacks when all I did was state facts and personal experiences.
I’d really like to go out on a high note and show you what real flaming is so you know next time to watch what you say. But I’ll refrain and just ignore all future posts and other things you have to say so we don’t have this problem and unfair accusation again.
I’ve seen you do this to other people on this forum. I’ve steered clear of your posts because I knew this would happen. Maybe it’s your English…maybe it’s because you don’t think before you speak…or maybe this is just how you are. Whatever the case, no worries, you won’t have to reply or have me participate in any of your threads again.
What’s sad is, we could have probably made something cool out of this thread and I could have told or taught you quite a few things to try…at least you may have come to the conclusions you seek in a better way. But at this point…you’ve burned that bridge. Your communication skills need far too much work for me to tolerate.
Not pointing to any one speciffically, more then one is guilty 
lol.