Catching hell from a client over a damn 808 - AGAIN

Catching hell from a client over a damn 808 - AGAIN
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#1

Does anyone have any tricks for an 808 or 909 sample?

The dude put zero bass guitar in this and has an low drone 808 jumping between a B and an F# in a 2 chord (Bm F#m) RnB track. There’s a snappy 808 that sounds more like a kick floating along with it.

The Guy said he wanted it to sound bigger. I tossed a multi-band expander on the sub harmonics and hit it with MaxxBass. Then he said it changed the vibe.

So I took them off, went back to the sample he had then tried to draw more length and punch out of it by saturating it with a Neve 1073, dipping the 500hz with a C6, then trimming the tail with a transient designer (Smack Attack). He said it preserved the groove but didn’t translate. So I bussed it through the UAD David Eden WT800 amp/cab sim and ramped up the midrange. Now he says it translates on small speakers but the mix falls apart when he cranks it in his car.

I can’t win for loosing with this one. And then goes ‘well, its cool…keep working on it. I understand…I know that mixing bass has never been your strong suit’. I sure as hell made me glad he paid me upfront ~SMH~

Post a response if you’re willing to take a listen, and I’ll toss it on a private thread than invite anyone to it who’s curious. But go ahead and comment on it here so it doesn’t blow up everyones inboxes.


#2

There’s your problem. What is “bigger”? Did you ask for a reference track(s)? I wouldn’t have touched it without first agreeing between the two of us exactly what we were aiming for - and that agreement cannot be done with words alone, there must be references.


#3

I have GOT to stop messing with these things when the guys expectations are just unrealistic. I had a rough mix that I assumed I’d beat pretty easily because it sucked ass. His bass was unbearably loud and the whole mix was smothered with reverb.


#4

Is there the possibility of triggering another sample or sound using the low bass notes and then blending the two together?

I would love a listen if possible, I’m dealing with a similar problem with one of my tracks, although I’m not too stubborn to try different things to get my sound!


#5

I haven’t got any “advice” but am curious to hear as well. I’m inclined to agree with AJ’s comment though - you both need to be trying to achieve the same thing. It’s not that you can’t do what he wants, you just don’t know. Hence, AJ’s point of the reference.


#6

@Jonathan clearly the answer is the ENGL amp sim! :grin:


#7

I don’t have a license for it. If he wants an amp he’s gonna have to settle for the Scuffham Solano or the Waves PRS lol.