Anyone care to pick this apart?

Anyone care to pick this apart?
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#1

Worked on this mix last night, broadly speaking pleased with the overall vibe, there are probably some tweaks i’d make listening in the cold light of day but I think it’s time to turn it over to some fresh ears for thoughts.

I think there’s too much vocal reverb in the chorus… maybe the snare could do with a little more transient poke, but I’ve been trying to get better at impact/ weight without having to tower over the rms body of the music, if that makes any sense.


#2

*Edit: Player issue in OP now fixed.


#3

Aha! I thought something didn’t look right.

Let’s try this;

Hmmm… This one’s definitely an MP3. I’m just pasting the dropbox link and the site’s automatically turning it into the player widget, but it doesn’t play… let’s try…

AH! Ok, think I’ve got it.


#4

This is great… song AND mix. Bass tone is fantastic, really dig the vocal vibe, great singer and very U2-ish with the verb in the chorus. Yeah, you could probably dial the verb back a bit, but I like the vibe it gives. As you mentioned, the snare might use a bit more transient attack to help it poke through a bit, but I really like the nice round tone of it, so even bringing it up a hair in the mix might work too.

I did find the left rhythm guitar stood out a bit more than what’s on the right side. This may be intentional, but at times it felt like the mix was a bit weighted to the left. Pretty minor gripe though.

Thanks for sharing!


#5

Josh, all you need to do is just drag and drop an mp3 file into the text editor box-- presumably you have that worked out now. :slight_smile:

This is fine stuff. Excellent material and performances, and the mix is in very good shape. My only gripe is that the bass and rhythm guitars seem to be stepping on the vocal, the lead vox needs to be a bit more prominent IMO. I’m having trouble understanding pretty much any of the lyrics. (But then again, I’m old…) BTW I’m listening on Sony MD7506 cans.

Really pro sounding over all though! If that one adjustment is made it’s ready to go. :+1:


#6

Hey Josh, I edited the original post to put the mp3 there, so now it plays.

This sounds great! Musically the mix is sweet. I think the drums cut through nicely - the kick and snare are a good match transient-wise - that’s what I generally listen for.

I found the vocal level to be good for a track like this - I could make out all the lyrics clearly without any effort, yet the vocal still allows the music to retain a comparative sense of power without sounding “on top of” the music…

However, what I did find was that the extra reverb in the chorus vocal muddies it up unnecessarily. I would suggest soloing that reverb and eq’ing out the muddy element that is conflicting with the vocal clarity there. The other option is to perhaps use some more delay on the vocal instead of reverb to up the ante in the “epic-ness” dept for the chorus.

Nice work!


#7

Sounds really good. Loved some of those bass runs down. Really a big sound. The singer is very good, especially nailing those high notes. I am not into mixing much, but I thinking it could cleaned up slightly??
congrats

Paul


#8

Thanks everyone for taking the time!

Yeah, it was intentional in as much as the left guitar is my favourite AC30, and the right one is a mate’s Marshall JMP which I was mostly using to thicken things out. The idea was that there’s a synth pad which comes in from the second verse onwards that’s panned to the right, so a louder left guitar might balance with right guitar+ synth pad. But in practice the left guitar grabs the ear a lot more with its attack and the upper mid twang from a Strat and AC30, so I agree with you! I’ll try either turning it down or trying to get more out of the right side guitar in that higher freq. range.

Chordwainer: My only gripe is that the bass and rhythm guitars seem to be stepping on the vocal, the lead vox needs to be a bit more prominent IMO. I’m having trouble understanding pretty much any of the lyrics.

ColdRoomStudio: I found the vocal level to be good for a track like this - I could make out all the lyrics clearly without any effort, yet the vocal still allows the music to retain a comparative sense of power without sounding “on top of” the music…
However, what I did find was that the extra reverb in the chorus vocal muddies it up unnecessarily. I would suggest soloing that reverb and eq’ing out the muddy element that is conflicting with the vocal clarity there. The other option is to perhaps use some more delay on the vocal instead of reverb to up the ante in the “epic-ness” dept for the chorus.

Yeah, I think I’ve overcooked the long reverb sends coming from the lead vocal track; there’s two delay sends, slapback and a longer analogue-sounding stereo echo, and the level rides up on the longer one into the choruses. However, the vocal’s also going to a medium length plate-style (around 1.5 seconds) along with most of the other instruments, and a long more midrange focussed reverb (2.5 seconds).

I think it’s the latter that’s causing the problem. It’s smearing the vocals and guitars into each other, especially in the chorus, and muddying things up. I think if I can clear that up it’ll expose the vocal echoes better. I’ve mixed a couple of other tracks from the same album in the meantime and used that final long reverb send much more sparingly as an effect and it works better that way.

Feaker: Loved some of those bass runs down. Really a big sound.

Thanks! It was a fun part to play, it was bass->Ampeg SVT-> Ampeg 1x15 miked with an AT4050, then there’s also a DI track which got really obliterated with this free guitar amp plugin and that track was automatated through the song so the bass could get more or less aggressive as required.

Thanks again, much appreciated :grinning: