So long (new space-mix of Emmasong)

So long (new space-mix of Emmasong)


The synths are ehhh, 1:40 was especially distracting. The double vocal works in some places and others it doesn’t.

The piano and main vocal are solid.

Personally, I wouldn’t mind hearing somewhere halfway this picking up to a jazz drum brush and standup bass arrangement. I think it will be super cool.

Can’t say I like the synths overall, but if it is a space tune I guess they gotta stay :slight_smile:


I thought so too! lol. Glad you’re still around @Emma!! Great to know you’ve been diving back into music!


Wow Emma,
Always something interesting from you! I like the song, definitely a strong hook there. The piano sounds great and I even like the bleeps and strange sounds . But I’m somehow not quite convinced about the combination. Am I ridiculous when I say that the bleeps don’t sit well in the mix? Could it be true that even blubs and bleeps have to sit nice and snug in the mix as any guitar solo would? No idea how to go about it. I don’t think ist’s just a level thing as Dave suggests. Maybe some sort of interaction between the bleeps and the piano (some side chain eq thingy with spaceverb or whatever)? Maybe some slow development where the bleeps take over and your voice is just strugling to be heard? I have a feeling you might want to chose between either a beautiful piano song (absolutely with standup base and brushes halfway through) or a convincing ‘taken over by the bleeps’ song (or something along those lines). Just some crazy ideas…:crazy_face:


Well at least you are not leaving us. (so long… yikes) Wild intro that I just loved. Hey honey I could feel. Nice thing is that with all that is going on, I can hear your “lovely” voice perfectly. Feather following down from the clouds now. Wow… I’m torn on this one friend. I really would like to hear this without all the effects. I know you like to tinker with new stuff. Not sure if you should keep the synth’s goin the whole time. Maybe some punches here and there?? Lyric/story was great. So glad you are back at it :slight_smile: :slight_smile: Keep messin


@Stan_Halen @redworks @Chordwainer @Descent @holster @Aef
Ahh yay… I did get some listeners and comments - thanks so much! Very helpful…!
And as usual, a little conflicting. Thanks to @cptfiasco for dropping by… I particularly valued your input on this one.

And I hear y’all on the synth, in one way… and yet… I had this sort of idea while I was working with this song… rather than a musical piece, with its conventional structure as in instruments/bass/melody/form etc… I was getting a cobwebbing layer of sound to make a soundscape rather than a conventional ‘song’. Because of the bizarre way I’ve selected the main synth, it fluctuates and as a result, is not at all easy to edit as it varies in each play through my monitors - the more I ‘tame’ it, the more dumbed-down it feels. And I feel strangely drawn to the randomness of it all, despite its lack of control…

And I can see that’s probably annoying to bash but I needed to get straight up feedback to see if it was making any kind of sense… (if THAT makes any sense at all!! :grinning:)
The original song felt quite cheesy with just piano but I liked the underlying melancholia… and I loved the genuine space sounds and their spacious panning… i will need to sit with this one for a while. Thanks so much for taking the time to reply! It’s strange and a bit challenging to step away from music for a while and then find the pathway back in… I’m suspecting more rules will be broken… :sunglasses:


Dear Emma,

I have been saddened since the time of our departure. When you announced that your were well into your training for the Mars colonization effect, we here at I.R.D. did not truly feel you would actually go through with your one last final “flight of fancy”. We assumed, at best, this was a pipe dream that could deliver several meaningful songs. Nothing could have been more real when you posted about actually achieving a spot on that fateful mission, we could not have been any prouder AND jealous at the same time (By the way, we all pitched in on a care package (with Coffee!)and @Chordwainer smuggled it on the last re-stocking rocket)

It seems the mission has been very successful and communications are speeding up greatly acrossed the vast distance between our worlds. We must hear the music of MARS! And We (Dave especially) want pictures from Aeolis Mons and Valles Marineris.

   from your most humbled earthling,



I agree don’t tame it. it works so well in my opinion.


I would “Like” this post a thousand times if I could! :rocket::waning_gibbous_moon:


Cool Emma - sounds great - good to hear you back recording again.

Overall, the mix is good, but it could be a little brighter for me, but that’s probably more of an overall eq curve/taste thing.

One thing I’m hearing is a little too much sibilance on the vocal - just a little gentle de-essing needed there.



Funky and “out there”! Hat’s off to the experimentation. A very interesting take on wrapping a “traditional” song with interesting sounds. Very cinematic. I can imagine you sitting on a hilltop looking at the evening stars.


Hi @ColdRoomStudio Andrew, thanks heaps… great thoughts…
Funny, because I’d been out of the studio so long I had simply not thought of tweaking the overall eq which I usually play with. Will definitely have an explore and yes… sibilance caught my ear only once I had mixed down to mp3. Not usually an issue for me but it definitely just caught my attention in the mix down… suspect it is exacerbated by the compression layers I’ve used, thanks for your ears!!

Hi @miked - thanks!
It’s mid summer here now and have just been for a twilight ramble, such a lovely time of year/night while the alien birds twerp gently from the echoing hills…


Hey thanks Eric… great to hear that!. It can be such a subjective thing. It’s been great for me to get such a cross-section of responses.

Dear @cptfiasco
It feels like another world here… winsome and losesome but enduringly melodic in a strange and friendly alien sort of whey.
Yes, it can be hard at times and the space winds have a haunting cry that curdles my blood sometimes but I am bravely overlooking such petty hardships. In the name of art, I baffle onwards… and almost remember you from time to time and the funny things you used to do and say…
but here, where the asteroids whirl and strange lights flicker and fade
reality is obscured by crowds of small gentle flying creatures that I am beginning to understand, in a strange and mystical way.

The care parcel was a lovely thought but alas, it was intercepted by weird wireless signals and arrived with only careless drawings of the original contents. A lovely thought though, thanks!


I say don’t tame anything here, I like it as is. It’s so nice to hear something that doesn’t sound like so many other things that are done “right”.


Good thought bud. I am with you on that. I look forward to listening to her stuff because you know it is going to be VERY interested. ha ha We love her cuz she is a " little out there"


Hey Paul,
somehow I missed your comment… oopsy sorry!!
And thanks…
hah… taking the fx out made me laugh coz I had it sitting effectless for literally years… my unadorned sounds bore me almost witless (cheesy grin)… I just found it quite a boring song on its own, a bit melancholic which I like and I was okay with the ‘takes’ but just needing another layer to it to try to express the other sense of the song from when I wrote it, that I’d somehow missed with just voice and piano… ha… waffle waffle… if that makes any sense whatsoever?

And yeah, I’m trying to work musically again… like a muscle that I’d almost forgotten how to use - how quick and scary is that??? Mid summer here, gorgeous weather and the plums and peaches are ripe for the picking… tomatoes just starting. I love this time of year, harvesting and the weeds slow right down…

More strange sounds coming from me real soon… hehe


Thanks for that Ingo!
The freedom from pursuing commercial success allows me to follow more unorthodox audio trails but it is still important for me to get feedback - really appreciate it ta!


Awesome! I love all of the sound effects, and I really like the bass sound as well. One thing I might try is making the sounds a bit less random-seeming. I do like the off-kilter feeling, but I wonder if you could preserve that by just keeping one lowish-volume sound off the grid, and have the rest of them match better with the time set by the piano. I’m not sure what to do, but that’s something that prevented me from getting really into the song. I like the vocal and the mix!


Hi Cristina, - Thanks for checking this out and commenting.
Yeah the synth is a wayward beast… it’s actually a vocal fluctuating vowel thing I was playing with in omnisphere… really unstable and unpredictable - I have played around with it quite a bit but it is not at all suitable for what I’ve used it for… hah… serves me right, but in some ways it is that random thing that I really liked…

I have tried to dive into this song again and suspect that it is ‘done’. I’ve tweaked the overall eq and think I liked that - just nudging up a couple of areas but I have had to put it away for a few days as I grew into the loathe-everything groove that is so very boring!
Will repost next week when I have some studio space. In the meantime I am having some wonderfully self-indulgent creative ideas that it are so fun to play with…The rollercoaster of creativity is a fickle beast…


I totally get it. Sometimes a song doesn’t turn out quite the way you’d like it to be, but your creativity/muse is already pulling you towards something else. That happens to me at some point with every track and it’s a real grind to bring it over the finish line.


Hi, @Emma, I guess I’ve been spacing out in my own little world thus far in 2019, but I did just now get around to IRD, and this song is a wonderful example of why I it’s worth it. I, too, have been curious as to what I can generate from some of my wackier wilder synth sounds, the ones that are really cool but not always harmonically friendly, and my current song is almost entirely that. Sounds nothing like your soundscape, but that’s what’s so good. To me, it is experimental in the sense of its randomness. I find I might nudge a sound here and there or repeat it to death almost and just go with how it sounds best to me. It is quite a challenge to achieve reasonable control and those elements of chaos you have at your disposal. You did a great job on this. Very restrained, suggesting airports and offices etc to me.

As for the song itself, super melancholy beautiful. Recording seems loud for a softer song, but it isn’t technically too loud. But I think I prefer listening to it at about 30%.

The harmony vocals was nice. It may bother some that it follows the lead vocal like a delay, but I like it, feels authentic. You have added it again in a modest amount, too, creating a pleasant diversity.

It could be construed as a sad song, and I hope if it is, I hope it is not messing with your new year. And at least you’re not leaving us here!