Preliminary Rough Mix of 6th Album Track - Can I get your input?

Haha, it might appear that way, but it is just a combination of the culmination of the last two and a half years of (very slow moving) work on demos, production/recording - along with the fact that I have some time off from work, (we have something called “Long Service Leave” in Oz) during which I am madly trying to finish as much of the album as I can…

For the next few weeks (at least), I will surely “keep 'em coming”.

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I love that thick electric guitar tone! I think it’s a strong chorus too. The one thing I might tweak is that the 4 different phrases in the chorus have almost the same melody. It can be really nice to change it up a bit on the third one. What I I might do here is to try adding something to connect the third and 4th phrase. You know what I mean?

I guess we know it’s all a crazy farce
(9-10 syllables, almost the same melody as above)
But we feel it’s all out of our hands

Just an idea! The other thing I notice is that the tambourine can be a little distracting at times… I wonder if the timing needs to be tweaked here and there. It’s tedious, but I do that a lot to get timing really tight on things. I think what I’m learning is that if the timing is just right, those elements blend in more (in a good way.) Kind of like if you’re practicing guitar and there’s a metronome, and you’re playing perfectly on time, you can’t hear the metronome. I always think that’s neat.

Anyway, great tune! I look forward to hearing it with the harmonies because I think that will add a lot too!

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Ooh I like this song Andrew!
Am a bit late to the party, but as you describe it as a preliminary rough mix, nothing critical at all to add. Just a sense of anticipation as I await the building up in places where I am hearing the ebbs and flows. Right from the beginning, well, first chorus at around 40 secs, I was caught… beat, tune and lyrics caught me up and felt somehow familiar, like a coat I was shrugging myself into with winter delight. My hands and feet moved to the groove and it just has a great naturally progressing vibe to it all. Tasty guitar solo, nice spaces in the storytelling… niiiice work!

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Thanks! I’m experimenting with all these ideas to see which works best. I must admit, I was kind of attached to the chorus melody, as I wanted to vary the verse melody more and make the chorus more familiar. You’ll notice in the final chorus, I play with the melody there, but I’m certainly not averse to changing it up if it works better. I think I have a good idea there…

Haha, that was a bit of a “whoops” moment on my part… I meant to mute that, as it was played to the demo drums, which had a slightly different feel. I’ll probably play a different part there altogether, if I end up using a Tambo at all.

Thanks for your suggestions!

Cool! Thank you, Emma. I’m changing it quite a bit, based on the suggestions received here, so I hope I don’t completely stuff it up!

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I don’t think Michelle commented on this song - do you mean Cristina (Riley)? I might have reading it wrong, but as I understand it, she was saying there was a lack of differentiation within the chorus.

I agree, that is traditionally the case, but there are many popular songs that are exceptions (2 that come to mind out of the blue for no other reason than that I have heard them recently are “Hash Pipe” by Weezer and “Why Can’t This Be Love” by Van Halen).

In any case, if you read through the thread you’ll see that I am working on changing to a more “traditional” sound at present.

You see… now… You lost me… :man_shrugging: I really have no idea what you’re getting at here… I’m just a dumb Aussie. I played basketball for fun during lunchtime at school (and was terrible at it). I know there is some lesson being taught to me by the basketball analogy, but it is going right over my head. I can’t pretend I know what you’re talking about, because…well… I don’t! Sorry - you’ll have to explain it to me as if I was 5. :thinking:

I am not wired right you must know that by now. Ok I just hit the wrong key and wiped out four paragraphs trying to explain.
You are extremely talented and comments from a very old man should be totally ignored. There are many here that give you great advice. Carry on

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In basketball, a press is a defensive tactic where the defenders get right in the face of anyone with the ball on offense, to crowd the player and force him into making mistakes resulting in turnovers to the pressing team. The idea is that the pressing team will get more possessions of the ball, allowing them to make up the deficit. When it is a “full court press”, that indicates the defense is applying pressure all over the court, as opposed to only on the defensive side. The downside is the defense can run out of gas from playing aggressively over the entire court, as opposed to dropping into a zone defense where each defender basically defends a smaller area of their end of the court.
If the offensive team is skilled in “breaking” a press by passing effectively, they will end up with layups and easy baskets because the defense is forced to over commit in small areas of the court.
What Paul is essentially saying is his team had a lead big enough to force the other team to gamble on defense, since they could not make up the 15 points without Paul’s team making mistakes. Knowing this, Paul’s coach probably had a practiced strategy for breaking the press, which worked just well enough to win by 4 points, or two offensive possessions, when at one point they were ahead by 15 points, or 7 offensive possessions.
Hope that makes more sense, since my fingers just went through a full court press to type this. Your assignment is to now explain cricket to me. I understand rugby, which is similar to our football, with the exception of not wearing helmets while you run over similarly ill equipped opposing teams.

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Whoah! Sometimes we overthink music, but this is taking overthinking to a whole new level! :grimacing:

Some things are best left a mystery. An American understanding cricket would just be unnatural! :laughing:

Rugby Union or Rugby League? They are extremely different codes which really only share the “Rugby” prefix, an oval ball, and huge Neanderthals crushing each other to a pulp… Let’s not forget Australian Rules…but that’s a whole 'nother story. :slightly_smiling_face:

I like reading weird content. I wanted to attempt to decode the content of your message. 🥸

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For any who might be interested, I updated this mix here: